EndlessWait
10-02 01:30 PM
Hi,
Filed at NSC on Jul 21st. Received as per FedEx receipt on Jul 23rd. Transferred I-485s, EADs and APs applications from NSC to CSC.
Received EADs and APs on Sept 25th from CSC.
Sept 18th notice received that I-485s have been moved back from CSC to NSC.
Rceipt date for transfer notice is Sept 18th. Dont see my actual Jul 23rd date anywhere.
When I posted this on , posters suggested that there is a "Receipt Notice" versus a "Transfer Notice".
My lawyer received the receipt notice. Will check with him about the Receipt date on that notice and post later today.
Any other ideas what this all means would be appreciated.
Seems like a ping pong ball being hit from one center to another with no result
:(
recipet notice would keep the 23rd july date..in ur case
Filed at NSC on Jul 21st. Received as per FedEx receipt on Jul 23rd. Transferred I-485s, EADs and APs applications from NSC to CSC.
Received EADs and APs on Sept 25th from CSC.
Sept 18th notice received that I-485s have been moved back from CSC to NSC.
Rceipt date for transfer notice is Sept 18th. Dont see my actual Jul 23rd date anywhere.
When I posted this on , posters suggested that there is a "Receipt Notice" versus a "Transfer Notice".
My lawyer received the receipt notice. Will check with him about the Receipt date on that notice and post later today.
Any other ideas what this all means would be appreciated.
Seems like a ping pong ball being hit from one center to another with no result
:(
recipet notice would keep the 23rd july date..in ur case
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sunny1000
02-27 07:22 PM
Yes it is just like someone asking labor sub to be allowed again in admin fixes so that they can get a sustitute labor and cut in line.
I don't think it is the CP filers' fault. They are not cutting in line. It is the USCIS who is sitting on their ass on these 485s while the state dept processes the CP files at the normal pace. It should have been the state dept who should have processed the I-485 and CP (just like how they used to do the H/L visa revalidation inside U.S 4 years ago) and we would not have this issue or the visa bulletin fiasco.
It is a gamble to go with CP just like any other application in this GC mess. I know of guys who got their green card in 18 months while I spent 5.5 years in labor dept alone. But, that does not warrant chastising of the CP filers or anybody else for the Government's ineffiency (except in the case of labor sub).
But, I agree that the requests by the original poster should not be a part of IV's letter campaign.
I don't think it is the CP filers' fault. They are not cutting in line. It is the USCIS who is sitting on their ass on these 485s while the state dept processes the CP files at the normal pace. It should have been the state dept who should have processed the I-485 and CP (just like how they used to do the H/L visa revalidation inside U.S 4 years ago) and we would not have this issue or the visa bulletin fiasco.
It is a gamble to go with CP just like any other application in this GC mess. I know of guys who got their green card in 18 months while I spent 5.5 years in labor dept alone. But, that does not warrant chastising of the CP filers or anybody else for the Government's ineffiency (except in the case of labor sub).
But, I agree that the requests by the original poster should not be a part of IV's letter campaign.
mantagon
06-01 10:22 AM
YES.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Nil
04-13 11:23 PM
El_Gualpo,
Welcome to IV and Thanks for sharing your ideas.
A concept will be put to test by how it is received by all others in the same boat. Whether it is accepted or not, pls remain with IV.
Do not be discouraged by a critique - most have merit.
Become a donor - any effort in this country needs money.
From current sentiments floating amongst general public, donation for attention may look like a buyout attempt.
Reasoning with the right people in proper limelight is the strongest way.
The system is unfair to folks who have done things by the book.
To change it, in this economy is not easy. IV has put in tremendous efforts in the past.
Let us just not give up. Big names in Industry and rational voices in TV are slowly opening up to what we are facing.
But this is not our country. Let us be prepared to convincingly answer: Hey, don't like it? Go back to where you came from.
Welcome to IV and Thanks for sharing your ideas.
A concept will be put to test by how it is received by all others in the same boat. Whether it is accepted or not, pls remain with IV.
Do not be discouraged by a critique - most have merit.
Become a donor - any effort in this country needs money.
From current sentiments floating amongst general public, donation for attention may look like a buyout attempt.
Reasoning with the right people in proper limelight is the strongest way.
The system is unfair to folks who have done things by the book.
To change it, in this economy is not easy. IV has put in tremendous efforts in the past.
Let us just not give up. Big names in Industry and rational voices in TV are slowly opening up to what we are facing.
But this is not our country. Let us be prepared to convincingly answer: Hey, don't like it? Go back to where you came from.
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snathan
04-29 02:32 PM
And who is India fighting with??
Come on we need to learn to forget the cold war days. This is 21st century and the age of facebook and other social networking platforms. the world is getting more connected and there will soon be no place for fighter planes any more. What we need is "food" and "water".....
Nature is showing us again and again the futility of our ambitions (regional and international) through her rather quite infrequent thrashings these days....
296 people perished this week in terrible tornadoes (worst in last 40 years!!!).....10000 or more a month ago in Japan earthquake (5th worst ever recorded!!!)....
Please tell us what cool-aid you are drinking..
Come on we need to learn to forget the cold war days. This is 21st century and the age of facebook and other social networking platforms. the world is getting more connected and there will soon be no place for fighter planes any more. What we need is "food" and "water".....
Nature is showing us again and again the futility of our ambitions (regional and international) through her rather quite infrequent thrashings these days....
296 people perished this week in terrible tornadoes (worst in last 40 years!!!).....10000 or more a month ago in Japan earthquake (5th worst ever recorded!!!)....
Please tell us what cool-aid you are drinking..
nandakumar
05-15 01:42 PM
I agree,
There should be support from most congress person for any bill to pass. All IV members should call the local congress person and request them to support the pro legal immigration bills.
Guys, This discussion has no relevance if the bills won't pass. So it is extremely important to call the specific House members.....
Thank You!
There should be support from most congress person for any bill to pass. All IV members should call the local congress person and request them to support the pro legal immigration bills.
Guys, This discussion has no relevance if the bills won't pass. So it is extremely important to call the specific House members.....
Thank You!
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11-05 01:04 AM
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Production; State department
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mihird
05-26 01:47 AM
I spent 5 full years in Canada from 1995 2 of which I did my MS (in Montreal - Quebec) and 3, I worked for one of Canada's largest software companies in Ottawa - Ontario. Over the course of these 5 years, I acquired both my Canadian green card and Canadian Citizenship..
From 2000 onwards, I have been in the US languishing in this stupid EB Green Card queue...
I originally hail from India, so can give some clear opinons on how life is comparatively in all three places.
I will firstly agree with someone who mentioned that rather than considering Canada as an option 2 after the US, one should consider our home country..honestly, I believe our home country should be the no. 1 priority on our list. The real solution to all immigration problems lies in the balancing of economies on a global scale...and we as the H1-B skilled workforce are the best people for making the Indian/Chinese economies move forward....reduce unemployment there and improve the wage standards...
As for Canada, except for the cold, almost everything about Canada is better than the US in my opinion - better quality of life, better social security, better health care, safer neighborhoods, better education, better immigration system etc. etc..if you hail from a tropical place like India, the cold WILL bother you, though....
Montreal is 50% English/50% French, and I had no problems living in Montreal although, I know nothing about French at all..
From a pure money stand point of view, it is true, that you will somewhat make more money in US, but most of that will be offset by the higher healthcare costs and higher housing costs...
Frankly, if this 6+ year wait on the US Green Card doesn't go anywhere, I will definitely consider moving back to India, rather than Canada...in 2007 or so...because, I feel, I have spent enough years away from India, accrued enough wealth and owe my time and energy to building the Indian economy....rather than giving my years to any of the western countries....that already are well developed...
My .02 cents..
From 2000 onwards, I have been in the US languishing in this stupid EB Green Card queue...
I originally hail from India, so can give some clear opinons on how life is comparatively in all three places.
I will firstly agree with someone who mentioned that rather than considering Canada as an option 2 after the US, one should consider our home country..honestly, I believe our home country should be the no. 1 priority on our list. The real solution to all immigration problems lies in the balancing of economies on a global scale...and we as the H1-B skilled workforce are the best people for making the Indian/Chinese economies move forward....reduce unemployment there and improve the wage standards...
As for Canada, except for the cold, almost everything about Canada is better than the US in my opinion - better quality of life, better social security, better health care, safer neighborhoods, better education, better immigration system etc. etc..if you hail from a tropical place like India, the cold WILL bother you, though....
Montreal is 50% English/50% French, and I had no problems living in Montreal although, I know nothing about French at all..
From a pure money stand point of view, it is true, that you will somewhat make more money in US, but most of that will be offset by the higher healthcare costs and higher housing costs...
Frankly, if this 6+ year wait on the US Green Card doesn't go anywhere, I will definitely consider moving back to India, rather than Canada...in 2007 or so...because, I feel, I have spent enough years away from India, accrued enough wealth and owe my time and energy to building the Indian economy....rather than giving my years to any of the western countries....that already are well developed...
My .02 cents..
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anilnag
11-30 01:43 PM
http://www.shusterman.com/
It says good news can come as early as end of this year. Thanks to all for bringing this to lawmaker's attention.
It says good news can come as early as end of this year. Thanks to all for bringing this to lawmaker's attention.
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whitecollarslave
01-15 02:33 PM
Can you please share your experience talking with the lawmakers?
neobtdb, digital2k, mpadapa,
You are one of the few people who have managed to get one or more lawmakers send a letter to the WhiteHouse. Please share your stories so others can follow.
Thanks!
neobtdb, digital2k, mpadapa,
You are one of the few people who have managed to get one or more lawmakers send a letter to the WhiteHouse. Please share your stories so others can follow.
Thanks!
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neverbefore
04-13 02:58 PM
Brother, your idea is good but practically it is very difficult.
Do you see a donate progress bar at the top, it took an entire month and lot of pushing to get 10,000 US$ in donation.
People are not willing to donate, many have questions about credibility and what work is being done, some have lost entire hope and hence not willing to donate.
It is like chicken and egg, we are asking people to donate to see change, some are saying change is not there and donation does not make a difference.
If it is so difficult to collect 10,000 US$ a month how can your plan collect 5 million ?
If someone is going to ask you the following questions what are your answers,
1) If i donate 50$ what is the feedback (in terms of info, progress) that i will get?
2) What will you do if the administration thanks us and takes the donation and gives it off to a non-profit education organization. (giving donation does not mean that they will do something for us). Then what do we do.
Instead can we not use that money to lobby for our goals.
Okay folks, how about this approach?
Since a lot of people do not donate because they think it won't make a difference, how about setting up an escrow-like account, which, if it meets its target (say $5M), is used for the purpose intended.
In case it falls severely short of the target by the due date, then everybody's money is returned without deducting any processing fee.
Any comments?
neverbefore
Do you see a donate progress bar at the top, it took an entire month and lot of pushing to get 10,000 US$ in donation.
People are not willing to donate, many have questions about credibility and what work is being done, some have lost entire hope and hence not willing to donate.
It is like chicken and egg, we are asking people to donate to see change, some are saying change is not there and donation does not make a difference.
If it is so difficult to collect 10,000 US$ a month how can your plan collect 5 million ?
If someone is going to ask you the following questions what are your answers,
1) If i donate 50$ what is the feedback (in terms of info, progress) that i will get?
2) What will you do if the administration thanks us and takes the donation and gives it off to a non-profit education organization. (giving donation does not mean that they will do something for us). Then what do we do.
Instead can we not use that money to lobby for our goals.
Okay folks, how about this approach?
Since a lot of people do not donate because they think it won't make a difference, how about setting up an escrow-like account, which, if it meets its target (say $5M), is used for the purpose intended.
In case it falls severely short of the target by the due date, then everybody's money is returned without deducting any processing fee.
Any comments?
neverbefore
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MahaBharatGC
12-02 10:24 AM
Santa,
Thanks for your response.
Education evaluation was not done for bachelors because the Labor only required masters. My attorney is planning to use 2 years of my experience to compensate for the additional 1 year of bachelors degree
H1Girl,
Thanks for your response.
Even my attorney says the argument of USCIS could be "building blocks" argument i.e. In US, for masters, 4 year bachelors is required. But, I only have a 3 year bachelor degree.
My suggestion to you is to get your Bachelors also evaluated. Whether it requires for job or not but you need to demonstrate at least 16 years of education. So, you need to get evaluated how each degree you possess equivalent to US qualifications.
Thanks for your response.
Education evaluation was not done for bachelors because the Labor only required masters. My attorney is planning to use 2 years of my experience to compensate for the additional 1 year of bachelors degree
H1Girl,
Thanks for your response.
Even my attorney says the argument of USCIS could be "building blocks" argument i.e. In US, for masters, 4 year bachelors is required. But, I only have a 3 year bachelor degree.
My suggestion to you is to get your Bachelors also evaluated. Whether it requires for job or not but you need to demonstrate at least 16 years of education. So, you need to get evaluated how each degree you possess equivalent to US qualifications.
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isantem
07-28 10:07 PM
That was a very illogical reply to the per-country limit question. How come a large number of people from certain countries automatically eliminate people from smaller countries from getting green cards? That's an extremely dumb way of looking at it.
will go to people from India and China,
If you remove the limits, yes most of the cards THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE #$@!$ING BACKLOGGED FOR DECADES DUE TO THE LIMITS!!
Is not DUE the limits, is due many aplications from India.
The reality is pending ROW 2005 - 12,815 India 2004 - 14,191 :eek:
will go to people from India and China,
If you remove the limits, yes most of the cards THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE #$@!$ING BACKLOGGED FOR DECADES DUE TO THE LIMITS!!
Is not DUE the limits, is due many aplications from India.
The reality is pending ROW 2005 - 12,815 India 2004 - 14,191 :eek:
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nixstor
11-16 02:59 PM
but isnt this the reason for LC advertising? That is, if a USC or permanent resident applies he should be given preference over an immigrant. By that rationale I am not so sure it is illegal.
Also, many large companies, when applying for jobs on their websites, mandatorily require you to state your visa status. While self-identification (race, sex) is always optional and cannot be required (by law, there will alwyas be a staement that says submission of this info is voluntary). t
They cannot ask it if it is illegal, and clearly this information is used in the employment process.
So, I am not so sure this is illegal.
I am pretty sure that discriminating on nationality is illegal, but that is different
Yes! An employer can chose not to sponsor a H1B and hire a USC or GC holder for various reasons (for examples companies dont hire H1b's for positions when they are laying off ). AFAIK, EEO doesnt consider a H1B applicant in the aspect you are talking. When EEO talks about National Origin, it is talking about any discrimination faced by you in case if you are denied a job given that you are Indian/Chinese/whatever.
Also, many large companies, when applying for jobs on their websites, mandatorily require you to state your visa status. While self-identification (race, sex) is always optional and cannot be required (by law, there will alwyas be a staement that says submission of this info is voluntary). t
They cannot ask it if it is illegal, and clearly this information is used in the employment process.
So, I am not so sure this is illegal.
I am pretty sure that discriminating on nationality is illegal, but that is different
Yes! An employer can chose not to sponsor a H1B and hire a USC or GC holder for various reasons (for examples companies dont hire H1b's for positions when they are laying off ). AFAIK, EEO doesnt consider a H1B applicant in the aspect you are talking. When EEO talks about National Origin, it is talking about any discrimination faced by you in case if you are denied a job given that you are Indian/Chinese/whatever.
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grupak
06-12 03:37 PM
Perhaps there should be separate EB category for anti-immigrant immigrants. At least we will have smarter bigots to contend with. :D
Hilarious :)
Hilarious :)
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RandyK
02-20 05:28 PM
I think all depends on how many ROW cases are in the 47000. Especially older PDs, newer PDs most likely will be still in the I-140 queue or I-485 queue to be proceesed.
I presume that ROW would be significantly impacted by this as India & China would not benefit a lot from it now because of PDs being badly retrogressed. I'm afraid that this has the potential of exhausting EB3-ROW row numbers for the rest of the year. Am I wrong to assume this?
I presume that ROW would be significantly impacted by this as India & China would not benefit a lot from it now because of PDs being badly retrogressed. I'm afraid that this has the potential of exhausting EB3-ROW row numbers for the rest of the year. Am I wrong to assume this?
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hpandey
12-27 11:42 AM
First of all, not everyone here is from India. Second, not everyone here is from programming/IT background. It is easy to make that assumption, but believe me, there are plenty of non-indians, or non-IT people, and even non-Indian, non-IT people here. :D
For these, what is or is not happening in Bangalore is completely irrelevant.
Second, people who are still here have already decided where they want to be. (Which is why they are on the forum in the first place). People change countries for more reasons than just following the next IT boom.
Anyway, regarding impact on opportunities here, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
When you outsource, you lose this talent pool which is already sitting in your backyard. You may still outsource, of course, but the most cost effective solution would be to hire the top talent already here. This is especially true in professions which do not work very well in outsourced situations, like business consulting, marketing, management etc.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
Pineapple .. you hit the nail right on the head. It is a misconception that everything is cool in India. There are a lot more problems than just your salary. Money is not everything . I think standard of living and less corruption , cleanliness and less crowd do count towards life.
For these, what is or is not happening in Bangalore is completely irrelevant.
Second, people who are still here have already decided where they want to be. (Which is why they are on the forum in the first place). People change countries for more reasons than just following the next IT boom.
Anyway, regarding impact on opportunities here, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
When you outsource, you lose this talent pool which is already sitting in your backyard. You may still outsource, of course, but the most cost effective solution would be to hire the top talent already here. This is especially true in professions which do not work very well in outsourced situations, like business consulting, marketing, management etc.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
Pineapple .. you hit the nail right on the head. It is a misconception that everything is cool in India. There are a lot more problems than just your salary. Money is not everything . I think standard of living and less corruption , cleanliness and less crowd do count towards life.
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gapala
02-21 09:56 AM
It was in sept 07.
Thanks Sheela. Was that visit to home, a part of your employer audit as well as it was mentioned by bujjigadu123 or something else?
Not sure whether you got a chance to ask the officer about the reason for this visit? Was it a part of random check or any investigation on fund transfers or any other program etc?
Thanks Sheela. Was that visit to home, a part of your employer audit as well as it was mentioned by bujjigadu123 or something else?
Not sure whether you got a chance to ask the officer about the reason for this visit? Was it a part of random check or any investigation on fund transfers or any other program etc?
kaisersose
06-05 02:36 PM
Guys,
It seems every few weeks this discussion of VB predictions come up. Now neither Ron Gotcher nor Murthy nor Matthew Oh (or for that matter even God i think ;) ) can predict what the USCIS cut off dates will be. What is the point in debating whether Ron Gotcher is right or wrong? This is the United States, there is freedom of speech and anyone can say anything especially if it is just a prediction. We can assume a million things here, as to what the VB date should be, but will it be that? No one except the USCIS/DOS can actually confirm that.
Not even CIS, only DOS can make a meaningfule prediction. Last year, CIS had no idea that DOS would make all categories current in the July bulletin. If CIS had any control over that, it would have never happened.
If I remember correctly last year, some 14000 visas were given to India EB3. EB3 includes categories like Nurses, etc. We cannot expect them to login to and keep their status up to date. hence, numbers prove nothing.
It seems every few weeks this discussion of VB predictions come up. Now neither Ron Gotcher nor Murthy nor Matthew Oh (or for that matter even God i think ;) ) can predict what the USCIS cut off dates will be. What is the point in debating whether Ron Gotcher is right or wrong? This is the United States, there is freedom of speech and anyone can say anything especially if it is just a prediction. We can assume a million things here, as to what the VB date should be, but will it be that? No one except the USCIS/DOS can actually confirm that.
Not even CIS, only DOS can make a meaningfule prediction. Last year, CIS had no idea that DOS would make all categories current in the July bulletin. If CIS had any control over that, it would have never happened.
If I remember correctly last year, some 14000 visas were given to India EB3. EB3 includes categories like Nurses, etc. We cannot expect them to login to and keep their status up to date. hence, numbers prove nothing.
mirage
04-19 07:06 PM
Good Job, I have already written this to my senators earlier, but wrote to WhiteHouse.gov today.....
I will be sending the following note to my senator and have already posted it to WhiteHouse.gov. I urge all those screwed by the ongoing retrogression to do the same.
"I am writing to inform you of how the country based quotas imposed on Employment Based green cards are unfair and totally illogical. When I immigrated to the US, I believed that this country was a meritocracy where you were judged based on your abilities and qualities. These country based quotas reward people depending on where they or their ancestors were born. This causes people from India and China to wait over a decade to get a green card whereas someone from another country with similar or lesser abilities can obtain permanent residence in half that time.
Since these EB category based green cards are awarded for professional skills, imposing a country based quota just does not make any sense. I urge you to work with Congress and change this discriminatory policy and reinforce that America is truly a society that celebrates meritocracy."
I will be sending the following note to my senator and have already posted it to WhiteHouse.gov. I urge all those screwed by the ongoing retrogression to do the same.
"I am writing to inform you of how the country based quotas imposed on Employment Based green cards are unfair and totally illogical. When I immigrated to the US, I believed that this country was a meritocracy where you were judged based on your abilities and qualities. These country based quotas reward people depending on where they or their ancestors were born. This causes people from India and China to wait over a decade to get a green card whereas someone from another country with similar or lesser abilities can obtain permanent residence in half that time.
Since these EB category based green cards are awarded for professional skills, imposing a country based quota just does not make any sense. I urge you to work with Congress and change this discriminatory policy and reinforce that America is truly a society that celebrates meritocracy."